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Matty11
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Re: Classroom (revised)

Post by Matty11 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:57 pm

Thanks Ike. I've expanded and changed the title to give more transparency.

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Phil

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Re: Classroom (revised)

Post by Mark » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:57 pm

Interesting read. Despite Linda's primer, I'm only seeing this at face value, which is well. I can sense some sort of allegory or metaphor but it's eluding my perception. 

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Re: Classroom (revised)

Post by Matty11 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:31 pm

Mark wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:57 pm
Interesting read. Despite Linda's primer, I'm only seeing this at face value, which is well. I can sense some sort of allegory or metaphor but it's eluding my perception. 
Thanks for taking a look Mark. I have edited L4 for more clarity.

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Phil

 

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Re: Classroom (revised)

Post by indar » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:16 pm

Hi Phil--

I was so in love with the first version I may be biased---I liked the ambiguity. There was enough there to feel I was safe in my assumptions about the meaning at the end but had the fun of imagining what that old teacher was doing.

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Re: Classroom (revised)

Post by Matty11 » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:27 pm

indar wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:16 pm
Hi Phil--

I was so in love with the first version I may be biased---I liked the ambiguity. There was enough there to feel I was safe in my assumptions about the meaning at the end but had the fun of imagining what that old teacher was doing.

Thanks for coming back. Yes, you did connect in the way I intended on your first read.

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Phil

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Re: Classroom (revised)

Post by Marc Gilbert » Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:37 am

Matty11 wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:44 pm
revision

My old teacher, telling lewd jokes
to mallards, wears a feathered hat.
The sign says 'Do not feed the ducks'
but life for him does not change overnight.
He shares forbidden bread. I let him be.

original

My old teacher, telling lewd jokes
to mallards, wears a feathered hat.
The sign says ' do not feed the ducks'
but life does not change overnight.

Nice bit of reflection. I lean in preference toward the original. I think the quote in L3 would sound better if it read: "Don't feed the duck", the two hard sounds of "do not" jarred me a bit out of the tone. I'm guessing this may be a literal quote from an actual sign, but hell, we have license :)

 
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Re: Classroom (revised)

Post by Dansinger » Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:17 pm

That's a nice little poem.

I too, liked the original better than the revision. I feel the revision detracts, rather than adds to the poem.

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Re: Classroom (revised)

Post by Matty11 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:32 pm

Yes, it is a literal quote Marc and therefore the language is formal. The sonics were intended to mimic a particular voice...the 'superior teacher' ;) :)

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Re: Classroom (revised)

Post by Matty11 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:34 pm

Dansinger wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:17 pm
That's a nice little poem.

I too, liked the original better than the revision. I feel the revision detracts, rather than adds to the poem.
Thanks Dan. Too much detail or not enough, always a holy grail!

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Phil
 

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Re: Classroom (revised)

Post by Tracy Mitchell » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:43 am

I am late to this Phil. So evocative. I love the soft humor and gentleness.
There is a humility and integrity to the old man -- I wonder what kinds of old coots our generation will produce.

The feathered hat is a real nice touch.

While I prefer the original, it is fine to add the forbidden bread line.

But I would think twice about the Speaker closing the poem by saying "I let him be". It lets some of the air out of the balloon, I think, because heretofore the poem has not been about the Speaker doing anything but observing and reporting. Just my view.

T

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