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Colm Roe
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Music

Post by Colm Roe » Thu May 21, 2020 2:20 am

Music elevates us,
we flatter our intelligence
with its ownership
and claims staked in its origins.
We, no doubt
nurtured its evolution,
like found poetry, discovered
something that was always there.

Trees that fall in forests do make noise
vibrate the air,
ears are not always required.
Words, when arranged just so
and read in silence
can violin extraordinary and
unexpected emotion,
seed the senses.

Purer than religion,
a reason to live, it is sublime, and yet
we found a way to corrupt it.
To send men braver to the slaughter
or reasons why they are superior,
to elevate their savagery.

Music is a mystery and a direction
telling us, with every crashing tree
that we are beneath
even ourselves.

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Re: Music

Post by indar » Thu May 21, 2020 4:22 pm

I am so impressed with the transitions between the elements of this poem and how cleverly it uses the old saw "if a tree falls in the forest" etc. And the "marching off to war" genre as corruption of a pure art ties up the initial statement in S1---such a salient point. Very rich poem that invites much contemplation.

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Re: Music

Post by Colm Roe » Fri May 22, 2020 2:20 am

Thanks for your generous comments Linda :)

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Re: Music

Post by murmac » Sat May 23, 2020 5:50 am

Colm Roe wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 2:20 am
Music elevates us,
we flatter our intelligence

Music is a mystery and a direction
telling us, with every crashing tree
that we are beneath
even ourselves.
“We are dealing with the best-educated generation in history. But they've got a brain dressed up with nowhere to go.”
-Timothy Leary.

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Re: Music

Post by Colm Roe » Tue May 26, 2020 1:22 am

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“We are dealing with the best-educated generation in history. But they've got a brain dressed up with nowhere to go.”
-Timothy Leary.
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Very true. But I suppose it'll be an ongoing thing. Each new generation will be better dressed, and the preceding ones will slag them off :lol:

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Re: Music

Post by murmac » Tue May 26, 2020 2:13 pm

Colm Roe wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 1:22 am
murmac wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 5:50 am
“We are dealing with the best-educated generation in history. But they've got a brain dressed up with nowhere to go.”
-Timothy Leary.
Very true. But I suppose it'll be an ongoing thing. Each new generation will be better dressed, and the preceding ones will slag them off :lol:
I love going through the lyrics of the songs I like. It surprises me sometimes how well written they are. I don’t always notice the words when I just listen to the music. But it’s also fun making up similar sounding lyrics.

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Re: Music

Post by ajduclos » Fri May 29, 2020 11:29 am

This is awesome, Colm.  Everything Linda says, and more.  If you have a soul and occasionally acknowledge it, then you know music, you hear music.  There is music in everything if we chose to hear it, to listen.  Sitting under my apple trees I hear a flute.  Love the phrase "violin extraordinary and unexpected emotion".  Sadly beauty is often used for ugly purposes.  A banquet for thought here.

And murmac - yes, lyrics are often surprisingly good.  Fun, indeed, to ad lib new lyrics to music.

Aj

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Re: Music

Post by Dave » Fri May 29, 2020 3:29 pm

Hi Colm
Thought-provoking, which IMO is good. Positive about human achievements which is uplifting - i love music. And dreary when comparing those achievements with the bad parts - just my view as you know.
The conclusion I simply did not really get. The idea behind yes but the phrase makes no real sense to me, I am afraid.
"we are beneath
even ourselves." This both seems impossible and hybris because you being a human cannot judge this. It is a philosophically weak conclusion to the interesting poem IMO. Keep pushing the thought provoking stuff out there though.
dave

 

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Re: Music

Post by Colm Roe » Sun May 31, 2020 1:43 am

The conclusion I simply did not really get. The idea behind yes but the phrase makes no real sense to me, I am afraid.
"we are beneath
even ourselves." This both seems impossible and hybris because you being a human cannot judge this. It is a philosophically weak conclusion


Impossible? I assume you're familiar with the term 'to marry beneath oneself'.
And it is just as possible to judge ourselves as it is to judge others.
As for Hybris??? I never mentioned her.
We are not as clever as we think we are is a weak philosophical conclusion? Ok, whatever.
Thanks for your comments Dave.

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Re: Music

Post by Dave » Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:03 pm

Hey Colm,
Thanks for the reply. I can't really explain what I mean. But thanks for the response and explanation.
Do you the Dunning-Kroger Effect - which suggests that a person without real expertise tends to over-estimate their abilities whilst a person with a great deal of expertise or knowledge tends towards more intellectual humility?
 

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